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Subject: Nunavut Laboratories
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 4:56:43 -0000 (GMT)
From: Dean Calahan
So, what are people's thoughts on getting some help from the Inuit as far as
collecting species or perhaps running experiments on them, as far as
suitability for a biofilter? Maybe Canada has some sort of educational
program that we could tap into.

Although I don't remember, I may have brought this up before (but now
there's a larger audience, so maybe I should ask again anyway) :) -- anyway,
there is this understandable reluctance to be transporting species from the
Arctic to elsewhere, and vice versa, and therefore, we wonder if we can use
Arctic species for the device.

But, what about sort of a reverse situation: if we're using Arctic species,
and They get infected from Us, that disease could conceivably spread through
the local population. Whereas if we were using non-arctic-adapted species,
they wouldn't have as much chance of surviving outside the device. This is
especially a worry if the concept of using GM species ever arises seriously.
GM Arctic species could escape; non-adapted would have less potential to do
so.

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Subject: Nunavut Laboratories
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 0:4:32 -0000 (GMT)
From: Terry Kok
My thoughts on the below are as follows:
What sort of organisms are you searching for? In my
opinion the ones which we need are already present in
human feces. I understand that there was a question
about using ones which could handle the cold. The
trouble with this is that the cold slows metabolism to
the point where the biofilter would have to be huge to
do the same thing as a small one in a warm
environment. If the biofilter (and I'm not sure if
that's really the way to go with FMARS) is built into
the hab (where the anaerobic waste tank is slated to
be placed - we don't really need an anaerobic phase)
it will stay warm enough. On another angle, I think it
is wonderful to get the locals involved in Mars
Colonization. I bet they know about some lichens and
such which would be very useful in Terraforming. This
sort of research collaboration should be encouraged.
They can do research on the spot (anywhere in the
arctic) so that would eliminate transport
difficulties.

Terry at biostar_a@yahoo.com

- --- Dean Calahan wrote:
> [to Life Support Task Force, from "Dean Calahan"
> ]
>
> So, what are people's thoughts on getting some help
> from the Inuit as far as
> collecting species or perhaps running experiments on
> them, as far as
> suitability for a biofilter? Maybe Canada has some
> sort of educational
> program that we could tap into.
>
> Although I don't remember, I may have brought this
> up before (but now
> there's a larger audience, so maybe I should ask
> again anyway) :) -- anyway,
> there is this understandable reluctance to be
> transporting species from the
> Arctic to elsewhere, and vice versa, and therefore,
> we wonder if we can use
> Arctic species for the device.
>
> But, what about sort of a reverse situation: if
> we're using Arctic species,
> and They get infected from Us, that disease could
> conceivably spread through
> the local population. Whereas if we were using
> non-arctic-adapted species,
> they wouldn't have as much chance of surviving
> outside the device. This is
> especially a worry if the concept of using GM
> species ever arises seriously.
> GM Arctic species could escape; non-adapted would
> have less potential to do
> so.
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> Mars Society Life Support Task Force
> Email - life-support@chapters.marssociety.org
> http://home.marssociety.org/tech/life-support/
> Arctic Base - http://arctic.marssociety.org/


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