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Subject: Nunavut Laboratories Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 4:56:43 -0000 (GMT) From: Dean Calahan |
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So, what are people's thoughts on getting some help from the Inuit as far as collecting species or perhaps running experiments on them, as far as suitability for a biofilter? Maybe Canada has some sort of educational program that we could tap into.
Although I don't remember, I may have brought this up before (but now there's a larger audience, so maybe I should ask again anyway) :) -- anyway, there is this understandable reluctance to be transporting species from the Arctic to elsewhere, and vice versa, and therefore, we wonder if we can use Arctic species for the device.
But, what about sort of a reverse situation: if we're using Arctic species, and They get infected from Us, that disease could conceivably spread through the local population. Whereas if we were using non-arctic-adapted species, they wouldn't have as much chance of surviving outside the device. This is especially a worry if the concept of using GM species ever arises seriously. GM Arctic species could escape; non-adapted would have less potential to do so.
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Subject: Nunavut Laboratories Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 0:4:32 -0000 (GMT) From: Terry Kok |
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My thoughts on the below are as follows: What sort of organisms are you searching for? In my opinion the ones which we need are already present in human feces. I understand that there was a question about using ones which could handle the cold. The trouble with this is that the cold slows metabolism to the point where the biofilter would have to be huge to do the same thing as a small one in a warm environment. If the biofilter (and I'm not sure if that's really the way to go with FMARS) is built into the hab (where the anaerobic waste tank is slated to be placed - we don't really need an anaerobic phase) it will stay warm enough. On another angle, I think it is wonderful to get the locals involved in Mars Colonization. I bet they know about some lichens and such which would be very useful in Terraforming. This sort of research collaboration should be encouraged. They can do research on the spot (anywhere in the arctic) so that would eliminate transport difficulties.
Terry at biostar_a@yahoo.com
- --- Dean Calahan wrote: > [to Life Support Task Force, from "Dean Calahan" > ] > > So, what are people's thoughts on getting some help > from the Inuit as far as > collecting species or perhaps running experiments on > them, as far as > suitability for a biofilter? Maybe Canada has some > sort of educational > program that we could tap into. > > Although I don't remember, I may have brought this > up before (but now > there's a larger audience, so maybe I should ask > again anyway) :) -- anyway, > there is this understandable reluctance to be > transporting species from the > Arctic to elsewhere, and vice versa, and therefore, > we wonder if we can use > Arctic species for the device. > > But, what about sort of a reverse situation: if > we're using Arctic species, > and They get infected from Us, that disease could > conceivably spread through > the local population. Whereas if we were using > non-arctic-adapted species, > they wouldn't have as much chance of surviving > outside the device. This is > especially a worry if the concept of using GM > species ever arises seriously. > GM Arctic species could escape; non-adapted would > have less potential to do > so. > > --------------------------------------------- > Mars Society Life Support Task Force > Email - life-support@chapters.marssociety.org > http://home.marssociety.org/tech/life-support/ > Arctic Base - http://arctic.marssociety.org/
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